Reclaim Notice

[Deleted]

Hello, I'm reclaiming many of my horses today. Please look to see if any horses are on this list are in your stables.

Unless you have a valid reclaim on these horses, they are reclaimed.
If you truly want to keep the horse please PM me an we will discuss this.

Breeding Studs
Wind Man
Indicating The Problem
Dominator
Only One Brave
New Accomplice
Lightening in a Bottle
Dream Sized
Foreign Light
Spy Catcher
Speedy Gonzalez
Afleet Alex
Desert Orchid
Cornix's Flight
Naughty or Nice
No Snow Angel
Impassioned Wind
Odd Nut
True Italian
Confianza

Breeding Mares
Wild Streak
Rude Awakening
Brush with Royalty
Shimmering Light
Coal in my Stocking
Silver Dollah
Finishing First
Guest of Honor
Distressed
Dancing with Perfection
Spot Light
Vegas Disruption
Beyond Your Wishes
Fashionista
Gray Key
The True Nut
Sneak Peak
Cute Italian
Classic Winner

Racing Colts
Tempered Passion
Wild Card
Key to Flight
Naturally Bubbly
Formal Attire
Kamikaze
Only One Wishing
Gentlemen

Racing Fillies
Beautiful Roses
Shell Shock
Epidemic
No Wonder
Trademark
Classic Nutcase
Athena's Blessing
Italian Key

Prospect
Italian Ice
The Crazy King

Please let me know if you have them so I can update their stats. If no one responds saying they have that horse, then it will continue as if nothing has happened.

If you have a breeding to any of these horses, unless it was given the okay by me, they are now voided. You may PM and we can discuss it if you like.

Edit: Also to add that any horses bred by any of my horses have buybacks by me. If you have any offspring of these horses, please let me know. They apparently got around.

[S u N f r O s t ~]

I will speak only for the horses I had claims to right now. However, I believe that a lot of your horses were not sold on. Only some were.

Also, Sam, you should really ask and not demand to have these horses back. You've been gone for a LONG time and we had no sign that you were coming back. Many of these horses may have been assimilated into barns by now. You really should ask rather than demand to have them back. Take a step back and view this from our perspective - an old member who nobody knows comes back and essentially demands to have all of her horses back, uprooting them from where they are. This is a bit sudden. Take the approach Lacee or Kenren did when they came back, ask after these horses and don't demand. Accept that they've moved on as you apparently had when you left.

Horses bred by your horses really do NOT have buybacks to you, because when those horses were bred they were under different ownership, and that ownership was assumed with the assumption that you were NOT coming back.

Confianza - I took him in when you left or from somebody else and I sold him on under my contract because you had quit, so your buybacks were essentially voided by your quitting (was this quitting with notice or just sudden disappearance?).

No Wonder - This was my reclaim through sire Merry Bay King. She stays where she is.

Classic Nutcase - This was my reclaim through sire Passionate Class. She stays where she is.

Flaming Confidenza - Definitely not your reclaim. This horse was not bred by you, but by me. You have absolutely no buybacks on this horse. The sire Confianza was owned by me at the time. The dam Dashing In The Firelight was one hundred percent mine. So ultimately, she stays where she is too.

Italian Ice - My reclaim through sire Impressario. I am not giving her up.

The Crazy King - I'm told this was an MBK foal. Has since been deleted. May be resurrected.

[Cavallo]

As for Impassioned Wind, I'm willing to return him to you, but his standing foals and the bookings that I established while in my possession for Y15, must stand. It isn't fair to throw everyone else's well laid out plans and current foals simply because you left and like Frosty said, it would be much better to ask than demand and come in here guns blazing. I know some people have invested a lot into some of these horses and their offspring and to simply demand is not the type of sportsmanship that is encouraged here.

That being said, I also understand how dear horses are that you've bred and invested in. Inquiring about their return is the proper way to do this. I have no issues returning Impassioned Wind, as he was your stud, but the above conditions must be met, otherwise you and I will need to pm each other privately to come to some kind of resolution. In general, I do not intrinsically feel inclined to even return him, but that being said, I hope that you can walk away from this as a learning experience and hope that your general intentions are not as rude as this post is coming across.

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Ignore the bold, my phone is being weird.


I said above that unless there is other reclaims then I am reclaiming. (Or at least Im pretty sure I did) I don't care if I'm inactive or not. You can't simply take horses from my barn that had no reclaims or buybacks and expect me to be okie dokie with it when I come back.


I'm not trying to uproot any of them but they shouldn't have left my barn in the first place.


Honestly I was looking forwards to coming back and starting again but with this, it's more trouble than its worth and just plain irritating.


In no way am I trying to be rude or mean. I didn't call names or demand. But if you take horses from me, they have buybacks and reclaim rights as if they were sold from me.

[Deleted]

Not to mention I said that if you wish to keep the horses to message me and we could discuss. I don't see how that is demanding.


If you had raced the horse more in its career than I did or did better for it then I did, then we'd have no problem.


Look at it from my perspective too. I was excited to come back then saw that my horses I worked so hard with were scattered or doing things I didn't intend for them. Then you become upset when I want them back. Please understand where I am coming from as well. 

[S u N f r O s t ~]

Once again, I have to ask you under what circumstances you left. Did you leave suddenly, no notice? Without any notice, essentially your horses become eligible for a dispersal sale. With notice...generally not the case. I have no idea what happened, I've already told you that, but if you actually look around you'll notice that a lot of your homebreds are actually NOT running around right now. Honestly, look around. The fact that not all of your horses are still around implies to me that no such mass dispersal occurred, or it did and nobody took your horses. So there is no need for the fuss regarding that. In reality, there are a handful of horses on this list that actually stayed in the game and were owned by others, and I've just cleared things up with a bunch of them.

I am not sure how The True Nut got reclaimed and I really don't remember. What I know is that seeing as you wee gone and there was no sign of you coming back, it seemed fair at the time.

This blanket reclaim post has simply incited a LOT of people. To them, it seems like you're coming out of the blue and suddenly staking claims on horses without regard to their current situation. You were definitely a bit pushy about this based on what I have gathered, and that is not appropriate considering the length of your absence.

We are happy to have you back, no doubt about that...I just wish you had gone about this in a different way. Inquire after your stock and their situations, express some disappointment yes, but don't come out swinging with this sudden reclaim thing. You startled us lol.

I think your main issue is what happened with The True Nut...I don't know what happened on that situation, in all honesty. But she must have been resold similar to what happened to Everyday Hero. In the end...that is a matter for public inquiry and a bit more politeness than what has perhaps been expressed. But don't let what has happened with her bog you down. You still have the majority of your homebreds. It would make sense to inquire about getting Nutty back and to inquire about her offspring as well as how she got sold off in the first place.

[Snowflake]

Hi Sam, welcome back.

As far as I can remember, you just disappeared after becoming less and less active. I found a chat post of yours dating back to 2011, so you've been gone about three years at least because GHF had a long hiatus in 2011. I believe we brought back some of your stock to be a part of a breeding program which later ended and the horses were sold. If you could please link us to your old sales contract if you had one, that would help here. Given the time passed however I think you would be best off starting fresh/with the horses not registered. Remember lots of game time has passed so registered horses have aged. Please don't expect everyone to give up horses they have worked hard for/with. They don't have to, and if they do decide to give them back to you, you need to do it on their terms. No foals/reserves are to be deleted, etc. You have been gone a long time and honestly for all we know you could be gone again next month.

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Ignore the now apparently current italized text. Phone is really weird.


I don't remember putting up an official notice because I didn't know that my horses could just be taken if I didn't. I left because of school, which is more important than Sims. I did mention it in the chatbox off hand from time to time, but I don't know if I put up an official notice or not. I have more free time now and I came back because I remember having fun with this game.


I have a contract. I'd have to go find it (for some reason I never made stuff easy for myself to refind)

That being said, I still don't like my horses being taken or used in a breeding program. You can always just create more instead of taking mine.


I didnt have many homebreds. I only have about 8 home breds total. Most of my horses were created.
I feel like, you shouldn't take hof horses or homebreds even if the player is inactive- if you have reclaims, sure, that'd different. 


Ignore odd words if any show up. This phones really annoying. It keeps making up words and putting them instead of the actual wors I typed. Like just there.

[Isabelle]

I recently acquired The True Nut from an inactive stable sale. I would like to keep her. I have been working hard in this game for a year and half now, I have never disappeared and don't intend to. I am working on a breeding program for my smallish stable and have been trying hard to get better stock. I feel I deserve to keep her because I have been an active member and feel the sale of her to me was valid. It was your choice to leave this site, and as this game revolves a lot around breeding and inter-stable mixing it makes sense to take horses from inactive sites to preserve breeding lines and give good horses a new home that is active.

I do not appreciate and feel very offended by you waltzing in here demanding things when it was you who left, others just picked up your pieces. And then years later expecting to waltz back in right where you left off? Where is your etiquette and social grace here? The members who stick with this game and really try to maintain it and make it enjoyable for others deserve your respect and thanks for including your horses in this game and also for welcoming you back and trying to help you.

I will take a stand on this, this is unfair and very crass of you.

[LK]

I perfectly understand where you're coming from Sam. When I returned after 5-6 years, I was a little jealous that my horses were with other people. But then I remembered that had they not been sold off/reclaimed, they would not be the HOF/Breeding sires/dams they are today. I'm extremely glad that they found homes so that they could carry on their legacy. Especially True Enough. I never would have imagined him becoming such a good sire when I created him. But he's flourishing under Sammy's (Nature Blue) care.

I do want to point something out to you though. Not reclaiming homebreds is one thing. But not reclaiming HOF or HOTY horses? Think about what you just said. You'd much rather keep these horses out of other people's hands so that you can spend lengthy periods of time away and starve them of having a good life? I definitely think HOF or HOTY horses should be reclaimed if a member goes inactive. They are part of GHF/TW history and denying them an active racing/retirement would have them becoming non existent. We do not want the horses disappearing because they have a permanent place here.

Please try to look at this from our view. It is a little upsetting to have your hard work be yanked away from you without a very good explanation.